2019 CT6-V
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I would not want to own the 1st iteration of this motor especially in light of the Northstar disappointment. Dodge had a proven Hemi when they supercharged it and so far has been reliable. This is a Cadillac designed motor from the ground up. I hope by the time it makes it into the CT5-V, the motor will be proven and upped to 800 HP.
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A twin turbo engine does nothing for me. I bought a 2019 knowing this would be the last year of the LT4 in the V. The lack of FI noise, on demand torque, and overall drama that a turbo brings to the table is a deal breaker. I love the supercharger whine and the instant torque of the LT4. I drove the M5 before buying the V and the performance left me unimpressed and bored. I do wish I had the A10 though.
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Northstar disappointment? Cadillac used that engine for 19 years and even supercharged it!
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Had 3 of them not one problem all over 100K miles.
That's quite a long time ago in engineering years. GM's LT engines are known for the durability these days: Cadillac Has Only Changed the Engines in its Daytona Prototypes Once This Season - The Drive
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I agree I've seen most of the Cadillac tech in up in the Corvette for years............
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Same here...I was unimpressed with the M5 and the E63 AMG is truly frumly looking, too much old style Asian car for my taste and too baroque inside.
I do not particularly like the CT6, it is a luxo barge and a bit too "Audiesque" for my taste.....I do not like cars with a third lateral window.
I'm glad I got the CTS-V
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So I have been quietly following the CT6-V; seeing the press release for 275 units to be preordered and then being instantly sold doesn't entirely surprise me but I'm also disappointed in Cadillac's refusal to put any marketing dollars behind the car. I mean, I get it, but c'mon.
At any rate I reached out to one of the individuals on the PRs and on a lark asked for the order guide, and to my surprise near-instantly received a response. Here's a link to the site (note it's on GM's fleet site) - and then below I have pulled down and re-hosted a PDF of the order guide itself in case it becomes unavailable on the site:
https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/N...regionID=1&divisionID=5&type=0&vehicleID=21700§ion=modelhome&page=&butID=1#
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q9bpvr3wuj8cp2p/2019-01-17 2019 CT6-V printbook.pdf?dl=1
A few comments of my own;
245/40/20 tires seem narrow given the drivetrain... I wonder if this thing will be difficult to stuff big rubber under.
Blackwing engine RPO appears to be "LTA" although I suspect this is already known somewhere
Two RPO codes for the suspension, FE3 (which I dimly remember from my G8 GXP days?) is the "sport" code GM likes to use on many models, but it appears they're also using F55 for the MR shocks
Looks like 5 exterior colors (white, gray?, Black, Metallic Black, and deep red) - all of which aside from black have an extra cost - and a choice of either black or "dark auburn" interior
4470 lb quoted curb weight, 5523 GVWR, which for those of us keeping track means the CT6-V has a higher load carrying capacity than a 2019 RAM 1500 Limited Crew Cab.
At any rate I reached out to one of the individuals on the PRs and on a lark asked for the order guide, and to my surprise near-instantly received a response. Here's a link to the site (note it's on GM's fleet site) - and then below I have pulled down and re-hosted a PDF of the order guide itself in case it becomes unavailable on the site:
https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/N...regionID=1&divisionID=5&type=0&vehicleID=21700§ion=modelhome&page=&butID=1#
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q9bpvr3wuj8cp2p/2019-01-17 2019 CT6-V printbook.pdf?dl=1
A few comments of my own;
245/40/20 tires seem narrow given the drivetrain... I wonder if this thing will be difficult to stuff big rubber under.
Blackwing engine RPO appears to be "LTA" although I suspect this is already known somewhere
Two RPO codes for the suspension, FE3 (which I dimly remember from my G8 GXP days?) is the "sport" code GM likes to use on many models, but it appears they're also using F55 for the MR shocks
Looks like 5 exterior colors (white, gray?, Black, Metallic Black, and deep red) - all of which aside from black have an extra cost - and a choice of either black or "dark auburn" interior
4470 lb quoted curb weight, 5523 GVWR, which for those of us keeping track means the CT6-V has a higher load carrying capacity than a 2019 RAM 1500 Limited Crew Cab.
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Hard disagree, 245s are insufficient for good lateral grip in a car that heavy and large. To wit, the W212 E63s at right around the same curb weight runs around with 255/35/19 front and 285/30/19 rear, not unlike the 2nd gen V, and the 2018+ model (W213) runs 265/35/20 front and 295/30/20 rear. Even the Audi S7 - less power and heavier - runs a squared 265/35/20 - the new AWD BMW M5 runs 275 fronts and 285 rears, etc.
At this point in the game I assure you that Cadillac does not know something these other successful manufacturers don't. This is just lazy parts-binning.
Last, re: Pee, what?
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Keep in mind the CT6V is not the next gen V4.
CT5-V is the CTSV 3 next gen.
The CT6V is its own vehicle and more like the V sport variant.
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CT5-V is the CTSV 3 next gen.
The CT6V is its own vehicle and more like the V sport variant.
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Right, as I suspect we all know mid-2018 Cadillac called an audible and instead of having the base trims, V-Sport, and -V variants, they took the exact car that was going to be the V-Sport and simply renamed it as the -V.
So all commentary aside, in 2016 C&D tested a AWD CT6 on the same size tires and it pulled 0.86g. Consider that that's worse than their long-term Chrysler Pacifica minivan that pulled 0.87g on all-seasons.
Is that V-Sport territory? Sure, I guess so? The 2018 XTS V-Sport pulled 0.82g on the same skidpad.
Is it -V territory? No. C&D's 2019 CTS-V pulled 1.01g, MT tested the ATS-V coupe and sedan at 1.04g and 1.03g respectively, and even C&D's long-term 2014 CTS V-Sport finished (after 40k miles) at 0.95g.
So let's not be apologists for Cadillac re-labeling mid-tier products as top-shelf and phoning in the configuration for the CT6-'V' with a six-figure opportunity cost attached to it.
WTH?? 4470 pounds? Is the AWD system made out of granite? A stock CT6 is LIGHTER than a stock CTS. How did the CT6-V gain so much weight?
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GeeXXXPee.
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I see a C&D review of a 2016 AWD CT6 Premium as having weighed the car at 4371 lbs. 3rd gen Vs are pretty light on the Alpha platform. C&D has a 3rd gen V's weight listed at 4129 lbs, which is significantly lighter than the 2nd gen -V; is that perhaps what you were thinking of?
Truth.
I miss that car. It was manual too.
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I was able to see the car tonight at the Detroit Auto Show. It looked more like a V Sport. I was very disappointed, not very aggressive looking, plain...online photos look better. There is no way this is a V4 so I hope your right
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