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22" Wheels??

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I just got my 2011 V Coupe and want to upsize the wheels to 22" and drop it with a Eibach Pro kit but I don't see many, really any, on here that have over 20's. Is there a reason? Was considering 22x8.5 or 9" o front and 22x10.5-12" rear. Any info is greatly appreciated!
 
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I think that big of rim gives it a "look" that not a lot of people on this forum are interested in.
 
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Ty SS and Tabio. I just want the full wheel well look but don't want to sacrifice performance. I guess my thought was heavier wheel, more traction with better appearance.
When you say create clearance, do you mean roll the fenders? I have called sevreral wheel companies and all say 22" no problem but im sure the $$ is motivation for them. I'm considering Amani Forged, Dub, Forgiato, Lorenzo and Lexani Forged. Will 12" on rear work without modifications with the Eibach Pro kit?
 
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Heavier wheel means more unsprung weight and less performance, not more. You need enough sidewall to keep the contact patch on the road. Going larger on the wheel doesn't fill the fender gap...going with a larger tire does. Go 20's with a 275/35 front lowered and you'll cut the gap way down. Check out pics of my wagon to see. The tires are 27.6 inches in diameter, that's 6/10ths larger than stock but still good sidewall. And go with some quality wheels like Forgeline, HRE, and so on. Skip that junk you posted. They are for looks only and not up to proper high performance standards. Humbly and respectfully.

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Oouch, I don't think I can bring myself to do that...Think I'll be sticking to 20's. Whats the difference between coupe and sedan wheel specs?
 
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I stuffed some 26" in and it looks fooshizzle mydizzel!
 
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Are you serious? Ok, I get it, jokes on me..."thanks" for your input...BTW is that your Hellcat??? The first of 300 produced?
 
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20's look proportional to the car and if you run anything bigger you will really have to run rubber band tires.

Here is 20x9.5 front with 20x10.5 rear with 255/35 fronts and 285/30 rears lowered on Eibachs. Any of the pictures I have seen with CTS's that use larger wheels, it actually jacks up the car. I know you have a coupe but height fitment is the same...you are just able to add more width in the rear.

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OK OK..I get it. No 22's... Looking at some 360 Forged from a member on here as I type. Thank you for your help and advice. What are you running btw? 305 rear? If im going 20, Im going as fat as possible...
 
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Stay with 19's or 20's and fit rubber accordingly as you lower it. You will be very happy. Seen only a couple 21's on here and the tire sidewall gets thin and ride quality goes to hell.


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TY Larry!
 
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WHAAAAAAAAT!!!! Whoa! Thas cra cra! Is that a V??
 
#16 ·
I run 21s,, love em. Still rides like a caddy even with the 25 series rears.. I'll admit, you can feel and hear the bumps a bit more than with the stock tires,, but that's to be expected.

Dubbledubs (twantytews) is too big for this car, imo.. ;)

Note: Only thing I dislike about running 21s is no drag radial available.

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TY, Ive decided that 20's are as big as Im going to go. 30 series on a 285 is small but I cant imagine a 25 series. I cringe everytie I hit a bump in my 300c that's got 265/40/22's on it and want to be comfortable driving this as it should be. BTW, Stepbrothers is a fav of mine. Watched it last nigt for nine hundredth time. Boats N Hos! Prestige World Wide!
 
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imho, 21's fit the radius of the wheel wells better. I'm just too chicken sh1t to do it and don't want to sacrifice ride comfort for the look. I had 25 series on my Bimmer - dodging pot holes got old for me.

 
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imho, 21's fit the radius of the wheel wells better. I'm just too chicken sh1t to do it and don't want to sacrifice ride comfort for the look. I had 25 series on my Bimmer - dodging pot holes got old for me.




Is that your Vagon you posted? What suspension mods if so?
 
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21's here, I love em! I think they suit it just fine, I think 22's are way too much for it though.
These 21's look GOOD.

These do NOT. Just my opinion of course - but 21's are only appropriate with the right design. snzuloz and a a few others have done it right. Everything else looks awful - too hood, too *******, or just tasteless.

Sorry if that's not PC, but those are the only terms I can give you to describe how it might play out. I'm with the other guys - even my 20's seem to compromise the ride a bit and don't really offer much more in performance. But there are a ton of good tires out there in the 305/30/20 size that I'm running out back, including some great track tires and drag radials. So I went with my setup based on the wide range of tire options I would have and gave in a little on the ride quality. But I'd never go to a 21 or 22 - there are hardly any good tires available in sizes above 20. There's a few, but not many. And prices are ALWAYS at a premium because the tire makers know guys running 21's and 22's are addicted to them...
 
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^^ Digging that, snooz!!!
 
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Eddie, what widths and tire sizes
 
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If done right, anything from 19" to 21" will look great and fill it out nicely. Look at Crtomlin's 19s in the Cts-V of the Month thread, they look incredible. Then look at these Forgestar 21's on this wagon, again incredible. You have to do it right though, wheels that typically go on 300Cs like Asanti's are going to look gay no matter what size they are!
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Then look at these Forgestar 21's on this wagon, again incredible. You have to do it right though, wheels that typically go on 300Cs like Asanti's are going to look gay no matter what size they are!
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That's mine, thanks :)
 
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Just checked out a post with 20x12 and a 345/25 on the rear! I like the idea of the fat tire but damn, that Vagon with the Niche 21's looks sweet as well but looks like it scrubs easily and I'm not looking to drop a ton on tires, especially less than 305's
 
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I guess I initially replied to the wrong thread...

I have 21's and I really hate them. I love the way they look.. hate everything else.

Also, why go high dollar wheels and put crappy tires on them? PSS or bust!

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I've been schooled by TriTexan about the tire aspect of the wheel upgrade and performance issues of skinny aspect ratio tires. So the general consensus is 20x12/9 with a 345/25/20 and 280/30/20 will be best for straight line and track applications. Ty for your input, much appreciated.
 
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305/25/21 PSS in the rear were $408 each
The PSS or Pirelli P Zero is about the only 21 inch tire I would run. The 305/25/21 that CJ11V is running is essentially a lower profile version of the 305/30/20 Super Sport that I run, and they are both a good match for the 27 inch tall stock sizes.

LOL, your right... Lost my sensible train of thought. Im still lmao...I guess its the "Big Chrome" side trying to bust out....I got a price of $320 for Nitto Invo 345/25/20 today. Reasonable price?
Pass on the Invo's. Just my take, but these tires are OK for traditional sport/luxury cars where they aren't pushed to the limit - maybe a Lexus SC430 or LS430, but they are not up to task for a V. I personally like the P Zero's but not many guys run them for some reason - but they come as OEM on a lot of very high end true sports and supercars. As well as Bentley, MB, Audi, Merc, and more. I have yet to see the Invo as original equipment on any Ferrari, Lambo, Mercedes, Audi, Porsche, etc. There's a reason for that.

The price is ok I suppose, but for your $320 you should get a lot better tire for than the Invo IMHO. I'm not a tire expert, but I play one on this forum LOL!

I guess I initially replied to the wrong thread...

I have 21's and I really hate them. I love the way they look.. hate everything else.

Also, why go high dollar wheels and put crappy tires on them? PSS or bust!
He's right - Pilot Super Sports are great all-around tires. They aren't the absolute best at straight line traction, cornering, etc. But they are the best all-around - they have amazing grip in the rain, excellent handling, cornering, noise, and wear. There ARE tires that are better in specific categories, but there's always a trade-off. They'll be noisy, wear out really fast, slide like crazy in the wet, and so on. Best part is the Pilot Super Sports are available in a wide range of sizes and are generally pretty cost effective. Don't let the price fool you - these tires are really good.

I think the P Zero are great tires too, but some guys have pushed them really hard on the track and had some failures. If you want a really quiet tire that grips like crazy, this is a great choice. It might wear a bit faster than the Super Sport, but Pirelli has updated the tread compounds in many sizes for 2014 and they now have a 300 UTQG so they should last somewhat longer than before - don't know if they'll match the Super Sports but should be improved. My 20 inch tires are so noisy I'm really tempted to try the P Zero again just to see how it rides, handles, and sounds. My wife has P Zero's as OEM tires on her 2015 Audi and they are amazingly good. Really quiet - nearly silent, smooth ride for a 40-series tire on stock 21 inch wheels, great grip. Haven't had them long enough to comment on wear, but time will tell.

Overall though, the Super Sports and the P Zero line are available in about the widest range of sizes of any performance tire, both are highly rated, come as OEM on some of the best sports cars in the world, and aren't stupid expensive. Pick up a set of these in a 265 or 275 front and 285 to 305 rear (or something like a meaty 345/25/20 if you have a coupe!), put them on a 9.5 front and 10.5 to 12 inch rear and you'll be very happy with them.

Best advice I can give you is this: Start with the right tire size for your needs, THEN find a wheel you like. Too many people fall in love with a certain wheel and size based on looks, and only then do they consider what tires are available. Just my humble opinion, but for the best handling and performance, that's putting the cart before the horse. Since you mentioned handling and performance were important to you - and they SHOULD be if you drive a damn V! - start with a high quality, high performance tire. If you've never seen that tire as OEM on a Ferrari, Audi RS, AMG, M, or even a Vette - then that tire model probably isn't worthy of being mounted on a V.
 
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I've had both the PZero's and PSS's on the car (still have the PZero's on the front)... the PSS's give considerably better traction than my PZero's ever did.

It was a blessing that Pirelli stopped making the 295/25/21 size as that's what I was headed back to... the PSS's are so much better.

Did I mention that I'm much happier with my PSS's?

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#51 ·
So 21" look amazing and 22" look ghetto? Really? Other than the weight issue and rotating mass. I say it's all preference. If I did do a 22" I would have to do a forged one or carbon fiber ( which I can't afford) for it to make to sense to me. Putting a 55lb wheels on a 700hp car is kinda counter productive like Tri said but I like the look depending on wheel choice.
 
#52 ·
By comparison, my 20 inch Forgelines are like 23 to 25lbs. That's 30 lbs per corner...dang.

But you guys have it right...go with what makes you happy. We gave various opinions so now whatever you decide...you've made a choice with all the facts and input. If the ride is harsh or you have limited tire choices...at least you knew that ahead of time and were good with it. If you LOVE the looks of the 22's and don't mind the tradeoffs, then you're golden.