[Bigwilly1267]

I have decided to keep my 2009 V. With that being said I want to go all in on the engine.
Things already done:
weapon X heat exchanger
2.45 upper pulley
Under hood ice box
E85 sensor
ID 1050 injectors
Headers(not on at this time)
160 degree thermostat
Test pipes
These mods made 588whp

I am going with an LS9 cam. What’s heads work best with this cam?

 

[Bigwilly1267]

I have decided to keep my 2009 V. With that being said I want to go all in on the engine.
Things already done:
weapon X heat exchanger
2.45 upper pulley
Under hood ice box
E85 sensor
ID 1050 injectors
Headers(not on at this time)
160 degree thermostat
Test pipes
These mods made 588whp

I am going with an LS9 cam. What’s heads work best with this cam?

I have decided to keep my 2009 V. With that being said I want to go all in on the engine.
Things already done:
weapon X heat exchanger
2.45 upper pulley
Under hood ice box
E85 sensor
ID 1050 injectors
Headers(not on at this time)
160 degree thermostat
Test pipes
These mods made 588whp

I am going with an LS9 cam. What’s heads work best with this cam?

Any other suggestions will be greatly appreciated also

 

[loweredd]

Is everything fixed and working correctly?

 

[Blades1_99]

I have decided to keep my 2009 V. With that being said I want to go all in on the engine.
Things already done:
weapon X heat exchanger
2.45 upper pulley
Under hood ice box
E85 sensor
ID 1050 injectors
Headers(not on at this time)
160 degree thermostat
Test pipes
These mods made 588whp

I am going with an LS9 cam. What’s heads work best with this cam?

If you're going "All in" find some of the build threads, like @MrSurly or @random84 's . I think there is also a 388 build thread too.

 

[Bigwilly1267]

Is everything fixed and working correctly?

Yes sir motor has about 3000 miles on it.

 

[Rubber Duck]

I have decided to keep my 2009 V. With that being said I want to go all in on the engine.
Things already done:
weapon X heat exchanger
2.45 upper pulley
Under hood ice box
E85 sensor
ID 1050 injectors
Headers(not on at this time)
160 degree thermostat
Test pipes
These mods made 588whp

I am going with an LS9 cam. What’s heads work best with this cam?

Big Willy,
I think the best way to approach this is;
how much HP do you want to make?

-in general - rule of thumb-
The sum of the cylinder head air flow, along with the camshaft lift and duration, determine how much air (CFM) can be pulled into the cylinder. If you take the HP you desire, and multiply it be 1.5, then you can determine (about) how much flow you require through the cylinder heads (the intake manifold should be attached to the head when you flow it), then you will know what cam you need.

Also, there are camshafts out there that make much more HP then does
the LS9 Cam, and don't impact the idle, engine vacuum, or driveability much.

Matt on this forum, from GP Tuning, would be good to talk to regarding that.

Cheers

 

[db-guru]

Big Willy,
I think the best way to approach this is;
how much HP do you want to make?
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Matt on this forum, from GP Tuning, would be good to talk to regarding that.

100% on what Bruce says. I run Matt's stage 2 cam because it fits perfectly with my desire for a fast daily driver. Note this is my daily driver otherwise I would have considered either his stage 2.5 (can be daily driven) or stage 3. Along with my "mild" build I ported my stock heads as personally I am amazed at the builds I see that add a cam and headers and think just a CAI is sufficient on the intake side. Good on you for asking about what heads to get. Don't forget you have a further option depending on how far you want to go. You can buy heads either "as built" or port the aftermarket heads for more flow. FYI, I'm just over 700 rwhp on E85 with stock heads and test pipes bolted on. Blower is stock so I don't need to account for additional airflow there. I worked with Matt to spec out all my initial parts to make sure everything meshed. The only thing I added later was E85.

 

[Blades1_99]

100% on what Bruce says. I run Matt's stage 2 cam because it fits perfectly with my desire for a fast daily driver. Note this is my daily driver otherwise I would have considered either his stage 2.5 (can be daily driven) or stage 3. Along with my "mild" build I ported my stock heads as personally I am amazed at the builds I see that add a cam and headers and think just a CAI is sufficient on the intake side. Good on you for asking about what heads to get. Don't forget you have a further option depending on how far you want to go. You can buy heads either "as built" or port the aftermarket heads for more flow. FYI, I'm just over 700 rwhp on E85 with stock heads and test pipes bolted on. Blower is stock so I don't need to account for additional airflow there. I worked with Matt to spec out all my initial parts to make sure everything meshed. The only thing I added later was E85.

Same reason I run his "Stage 2".

 

[Rubber Duck]

Same reason I run his "Stage 2".

I don't remember anyone asking you for comment..

 

[MrSurly]

You really need to consider what you mean by "all in" .... HP goal/drive-ability goal/track time (ET) goal?
The LS9 cam is not much of a step up.
Likely the first consideration should be BUDGET

guess why I say that

 

[Rubber Duck]

You really need to consider what you mean by "all in" .... HP goal/drive-ability goal/track time (ET) goal?
The LS9 cam is not much of a step up.

Likely the first consideration should be BUDGET
guess why I say that

WTF?????????

 

[MrSurly]

WTF?????????

What’s the trouble?
You disagree on the budget or the LS9 cam?


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[loweredd]

I think he's wondering why you said the word budget. 🤣🤣🤣

 

[Bigwilly1267]

Thanks for the replies. I got in touch with montmotorsprts and got an idea of what I need for where I want to be. I want at least 700whp.
this is what he suggested:
1.BTR stage 1 or 2 cam
2. Frankenstein m311 273cc ls3 rectangle heads
3. Lifters (upgraded)
4. Pushrods (upgraded)
5. Lower pulley at least 9.1
6. Hardware (gaskets, head bolts ex.)

 

[Bigwilly1267]

100% on what Bruce says. I run Matt's stage 2 cam because it fits perfectly with my desire for a fast daily driver. Note this is my daily driver otherwise I would have considered either his stage 2.5 (can be daily driven) or stage 3. Along with my "mild" build I ported my stock heads as personally I am amazed at the builds I see that add a cam and headers and think just a CAI is sufficient on the intake side. Good on you for asking about what heads to get. Don't forget you have a further option depending on how far you want to go. You can buy heads either "as built" or port the aftermarket heads for more flow. FYI, I'm just over 700 rwhp on E85 with stock heads and test pipes bolted on. Blower is stock so I don't need to account for additional airflow there. I worked with Matt to spec out all my initial parts to make sure everything meshed. The only thing I added later was E85.

Sir so all you did was add a cam and port your heads along with E85 and make 700 rwhp?

 

[Rubber Duck]

What’s the trouble?
You disagree on the budget or the LS9 cam?


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Your statement read:
"Likely the first consideration should be BUDGET
guess why I say that"

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First, why would you surmise that Big Willy's first consideration 'Should Be' the budget?

This part of the forum, is for technical questions.
Big Willy drops in once in a while looking for technical advise.

He seems like a very genuine person, who always thanks people for their time.
He comes back later to let us know how things worked out.

I would like to see people like Big Willy feel comfortable in coming to this forum,
and be able to ask questions, without being afraid of being embraced.

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Once again, as before; his questions were technical questions, and he said nothing about budgets.
'Money and Budgets' are somewhat personal to some people.

Big Willy has referenced an LS9 Camshaft, and is asking,
'What Heads' would those of us reading his post, might recommend.

Frankly, Big Willy might not understand the LS9 Camshaft
can easily be bettered today, for just a little more money.

So, we should all be recommending a camshaft and cylinder head
package to him, based on what his HP Goal is, and not belittle him stating. . .
"Likely the first consideration should be BUDGET
guess why I say that"

That's not a technical answer!

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Now, when you first began posting to this forum, do you recall what your first remark was to me?

I do!

And it was a remark that was a personal attack on me, and was made for no reason.
I simply deflected the attack, as you were new to this forum.


And now let's look at the definition for Surly.
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surly

sûr′lē
adjective

1. Sullenly ill-humored; gruff.
2. Threatening, as of weather conditions; ominous.
3. Arrogant; domineering.

 

[db-guru]

Sir so all you did was add a cam and port your heads along with E85 and make 700 rwhp?

Not quite, those were additions on top of my "mild" build that I mentioned. Ported stock throttle body, 2.45 upper, injectors, catch can, colder plugs, Airaid, and track attack HX. BTR cam install kit put in with cam plus underhood tank. E85 was the DSX kit. Test pipes were installed between mild build and cam as they didn't arrive in time for the first mild build.

 

[Rubber Duck]

Thanks for the replies. I got in touch with montmotorsprts and got an idea of what I need for where I want to be. I want at least 700whp.
this is what he suggested:
1.BTR stage 1 or 2 cam
2. Frankenstein m311 273cc ls3 rectangle heads
3. Lifters (upgraded)
4. Pushrods (upgraded)
5. Lower pulley at least 9.1
6. Hardware (gaskets, head bolts ex.)

Mr. Big,
Those heads should help you realize your goal of 700 HP.

Because those cylinder heads do flow very well, those cams should also be good.

E85 is usually good for an additional 75 hp to 100 hp, over gasoline. . .Depending!

But E85 also is an oxygenated fuel, which helps cool down the cylinders, helping to prevent destructive self detonation, which I believe hurt your engine once before.

But please remember; if you go to E85, please be sure you get help from someone like Mont Motorsports, as you will need a new tune, and possibly larger fuel pumps, etc.

Mont Motorsports is a good company to deal with, and I am
sure they will help you realize your HP Goal.

Good Luck!

 

[db-guru]

E85 is usually good for an additional 75 hp to 100 hp, over gasoline. . .Depending!

E85 was good for about 85 hp on my build.

Bruce,
I'm thinking about a new set of speakers and hopefully my last set of speakers. Do you have any opinion on Tekton Moabs? If so, could you PM me? They would replace my KEF 107/2 speakers in my stereo system located in a very large family room with high ceilings. The KEFs would go back in my 5 channel home theater where they lived before I had a separate stereo system. The NEAR speakers would go back into my roomful of old speakers.

Thanks.

 

[MrSurly]

Frankly, Big Willy might not understand the LS9 Camshaft
can easily be bettered today, for just a little more money.


And now let's look at the definition for Surly.

To @bigwilly my sincere apologies if I have caused offense. Certainly none intended.

To @RubberDuck to you, as well, if I have offended, I apologize.
I will note that my idea of humor sometimes doesn’t always “land”; not everyone ‘gets it’ every time… but you can rest thoroughly assured that I have NEVER leveled a personal attack at you.
I appreciate greatly your and everyone’s advice on this forum.

I shan’t hijack this thread, Looking forward to watching news about this build.


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