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bigair

Discussion Starter · 8 mo ago

Hi all,
14 V with all basic bolt on mods, cam, etc. Did a short street pull and afterwards had what I think is steam coming out of the MM catch can. No milky oil, good oil pressure, nothing out of the exhaust. Intercooler brick seems solid as I pressure tested it. I guess a compression test is next, but why is there nothing coming out of the exhaust? Server won't upload video, but it is basically billowing out of the catch can breather. TIA

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deshars313

· #2 · 8 mo ago

bigair said:
Hi all,
14 V with all basic bolt on mods, cam, etc. Did a short street pull and afterwards had what I think is steam coming out of the MM catch can. No milky oil, good oil pressure, nothing out of the exhaust. Intercooler brick seems solid as I pressure tested it. I guess a compression test is next, but why is there nothing coming out of the exhaust? Server won't upload video, but it is basically billowing out of the catch can breather. TIA

How is your catch can piped? Is only running to the valley on the supercharger or do you also have a catch can for the heads?

bigair

Discussion Starter · #3 · 8 mo ago

deshars313 said:
How is your catch can piped? Is only running to the valley on the supercharger or do you also have a catch can for the heads?

3/4 hose from oil filler to can and a smaller hose to blower nipple to can

Rubber Duck

· #4 · 8 mo ago

bigair said:
Hi all,
14 V with all basic bolt on mods, cam, etc. Did a short street pull and afterwards had what I think is steam coming out of the MM catch can. No milky oil, good oil pressure, nothing out of the exhaust. Intercooler brick seems solid as I pressure tested it. I guess a compression test is next, but why is there nothing coming out of the exhaust? Server won't upload video, but it is basically billowing out of the catch can breather. TIA

Oil does not steam, water does!

Put your coolant pressure tester back on, and leave it on for about
a half a day and see what happens.

Then, if you must; drain the oil and look inside the filter.

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bigair

Discussion Starter · #5 · 8 mo ago

Rubber Duck said:
Oil does not steam, water does!

Put your coolant pressure tester back on, and leave it on for about
a half a day and see what happens.

Then, if you must; drain the oil and look inside the filter.

I need to get a coolant pressure tester and do as you suggest. I thought for sure it was the brick. I had removed it and put it in water and pressurized it, no bubbles. Leak down test is another thing I should try. I still don't understand why no milkshake in the oil or anything out the exhaust.

Rubber Duck

· #6 · 8 mo ago (Edited)

bigair said:
I need to get a coolant pressure tester and do as you suggest. I thought for sure it was the brick. I had removed it and put it in water and pressurized it, no bubbles. Leak down test is another thing I should try. I still don't understand why no milkshake in the oil or anything out the exhaust.

From what you have stated, I believe you do have a problem with the brick.
Just a guess though!

Warm the car up, put the pressure tester on it, and let it sit.

If you drain the oil, attempt to only loosen the drain plug, as water will settle on the bottom of the oil pan. Once loosened sufficiently, water will drain out before the oil will.

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You have owned some nice cars..

09 V, silver w/ titanium-ebony interior, auto. 663/700
812 / 885 on a 100 shot!
'72 442 W-30, '72 SS 454 El Camino, '86 T-Type

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Your not by any chance running E85, are you?

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bigair

Discussion Starter · #7 · 8 mo ago

Rubber Duck said:
From what you have stated, I believe you do have a problem with the brick.
Just a guess though!

Warm the car up, put the pressure tester on it, and let it sit.

If you drain the oil, attempt to only loosen the drain plug, as water will settle on the bottom of the oil pan. Once loosened sufficiently, water will drain out before the oil will.

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You have owned some nice cars..

09 V, silver w/ titanium-ebony interior, auto. 663/700
812 / 885 on a 100 shot!
'72 442 W-30, '72 SS 454 El Camino, '86 T-Type

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Your not by any chance running E85, are you?

I drained the brick and disconnected the water lines then fired it up, same thing happens. I am running e85, it was a fresh tank. I have been on e85 for the last 6 years. The only thing that has changed was a transmission rebuild, which is the reason I got on the gas. I wish I could upload the video.

Still have all the cars, lol thank you!

RedTXV

· #8 · 8 mo ago

Put it on YouTube and then put the link here.

RocketSled

· #9 · 8 mo ago

What does the white smoke smell like? Antifreeze? If not, then it isn't coolant.

Rubber Duck

· #10 · 8 mo ago

bigair said:
I drained the brick and disconnected the water lines then fired it up, same thing happens. I am running e85, it was a fresh tank. I have been on e85 for the last 6 years. The only thing that has changed was a transmission rebuild, which is the reason I got on the gas. I wish I could upload the video.

Still have all the cars, lol thank you!

If the pressure testing continues to show no leak, then I suggest you change the oil and filter.

The negative regarding E85, which is an ethanol, is;
any ethanol (wood or sugar) tends to attract water.

Oil and filter changes must then be completed much more frequently. . . .

Cheers

bigair

Discussion Starter · #11 · 8 mo ago

Thank you all for the advice.
It does smell like coolant, which is why I was certain it was the brick. Definitely not oil. I will try to post a link to the video.

bigair

Discussion Starter · #12 · 8 mo ago

New video by L Sanhz

This is what is coming out of the catch can breather.

kittyboy

· #13 · 8 mo ago

Pull the line from the valley port and check for steam. The brick may be good, but the O-rings may be old or damaged.

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bigair

Discussion Starter · #14 · 8 mo ago

kittyboy said:
Pull the line from the valley port and check for steam. The brick may be good, but the O-rings may be old or damaged.

I will try that. I did disconnect the water lines to the brick and it still had steam though. I will post results tomorrow. Thank you

bigair

Discussion Starter · #15 · 8 mo ago

Update
Pulled the valley port line, same result.
Placed a pressure tester on the coolant reservoir, solid psi reading for a long time.
My friend thought the "steam", smells like ethanol. Kinda what Rubber Duck mentioned. So, how would that much "steam" be created? Could an injector be stuck open? But nothing is coming from the exhaust, oil remains golden, coolant level in reservoir remains steady.
TIA

RocketSled

· #16 · 8 mo ago

A stuck injector would generate codes, misfire at a minimum, codes related to running too rich probably, too. You'd get emissions related codes, bad O2 sensor checks, etc..

From your video, that's a huge amount of vapor. Not to mention a lot more pressure venting from the crankcase than I'd expect with the engine at idle. You did a leakdown test and the cooling system was fine. I hate to say it, but I think you need to do a compression check. I'm thinking "rings".

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bigair

Discussion Starter · #17 · 8 mo ago

RocketSled said:
A stuck injector would generate codes, misfire at a minimum, codes related to running too rich probably, too. You'd get emissions related codes, bad O2 sensor checks, etc..

From your video, that's a huge amount of vapor. Not to mention a lot more pressure venting from the crankcase than I'd expect with the engine at idle. You did a leakdown test and the cooling system was fine. I hate to say it, but I think you need to do a compression check. I'm thinking "rings".

Thank you for the reply
It is showing misfire codes
I'm going to replace the intercooler brick now and fire it up again.
I definitely need to get a compression test done, but wouldn't such show something out of the exhaust?
I have not brought it up to temp because I am afraid of running it that long but the cooling system seems ok
Thank you again

bigair

Discussion Starter · #18 · 8 mo ago

It's not the brick, as it is the same with the new one.

kittyboy

· #19 · 8 mo ago

bigair said:
Thank you for the reply
It is showing misfire codes
I'm going to replace the intercooler brick now and fire it up again.
I definitely need to get a compression test done, but wouldn't such show something out of the exhaust?
I have not brought it up to temp because I am afraid of running it that long but the cooling system seems ok
Thank you again

I thought you pressure tested your existing brick previously with no leaks, why are you replacing it? Also, did you first try to replace the brick o-rings first?

bigair

Discussion Starter · #20 · 8 mo ago

kittyboy said:
I thought you pressure tested your existing brick previously with no leaks, why are you replacing it? Also, did you first try to replace the brick o-rings first?

I did pressure test the brick, when I placed it back in the lid, the manifold for the coolant lines was off and I had to pry it over while bolting it in. My friend had an extra brick so I thought I would try it.
I would have bet anything as I was certain it was the brick from the beginning. Just double checking

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