[MrSurly]

Don't forget the Prop 65 warning.

 

[random84]

Don't forget the Prop 65 warning.

California just needs to admit to itself that Everything causes cancer- including living in California.

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[Blown376]

Maybe they should tattoo that on all newborns before leaving the maternity ward.

 

[RocketSled]

Just out of curiosity - if you've noticed your subframe was cracked, are you running the stock suspension still, or have you made mods like, for instance, Eibach springs, bigger wheels/tires, sway bar upgrade, coil overs, etc...?

 

[kittyboy]

Just out of curiosity - if you've noticed your subframe was cracked, are you running the stock suspension still, or have you made mods like, for instance, Eibach springs, bigger wheels/tires, sway bar upgrade, coil overs, etc...?

No cracks, stock suspension, stock wheels. I am going to replace the cradle later this year with chromoly.

 

[MrSurly]

I have a crack on mine in one spot; doesn’t appear to change, ever. When i first noticed if, the car was 100% stock with 122,000 miles

 

[cynot]

Just one man's opinion: you are fooling yourself.
I'm not saying you are doomed or that it will progress rapidly (maybe not at all) but I believe is a crack.
Keep an eye on it and take pics each time.

You were 100% correct MrSurly! Here I am 7 months later in the shop getting the upper and lower control arms and struts replaced. Now I'm waiting for the fabricator to come and weld the frame tomorrow. This is some scary stuff!

 

[kittyboy]

You were 100% correct MrSurly! Here I am 7 months later in the shop getting the upper and lower control arms and struts replaced. Now I'm waiting for the fabricator to come and weld the frame tomorrow. This is some scary stuff!
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Just a matter of time before small turns into big. Keep an eye on the weld repair, unless properly annealed there is a good chance it will crack again.

 

[Sudderth]

This should be a recall. I welded mine last year…

 

[kittyboy]

This should be a recall. I welded mine last year…

Yeah, that will probably never happen at this late stage. How are the welds holding up under the conditions you drive?

 

[cynot]

This should be a recall. I welded mine last year…

I'm having some difficulty finding a welder in Ft. Worth, TX. My original guy is booked till late February and the car is still at the alignment shop.

 

[Sudderth]

When a control arm separates and causes a wreck…

 

[Sudderth]

I drive mine like I stole it. New brakes and tires every year. No cracks have come back yet. On the way to a new set of Pirelli tires…

 

[kittyboy]

I drive mine like I stole it. New brakes and tires every year. No cracks have come back yet. On the way to a new set of Pirelli tires…

Excellent news!

Read my #122 post. Posts #151 and #157 killed my offer to make chromoly cradles available. The cradle I commissioned will probably get installed later this year. Fortunately, I have no cracks at this time.

 

[Jim]

90k miles and no cracks on mine.

 

[cynot]

SO..... the weld didn't hold up on the test drive. I am currently fighting with the shop owner, (who I like and have had work done there before) about why his weld tech removed so much material and I can plainly see the crack pattern before they put it back together. He is now looking for a replacement subframe. Any and all help from this forum is greatly appreciated. Mainly, is there an aftermarket subframe available for the 3.6L? It also looks like the lower bushing burst when the tab broke off.

2012 CTS Wagon, Premium, RWD, 3.6L, VIN #1G6DP8E39C0115024.having a little difficulty finding the correct part.

 

[MrSurly]

Well, that’s the first one I’ve seen that fully separated.
But that is one ridiculously shitty excuse for a weld.
There was no adequate preparation AND no penetration (at all) and no actual repair was affected.

This is NOT evidence that a weld is not a viable fix…. it is proof positive that the welder didn’t know what he was doing, at all

 

[MrSurly]

Someone is going to point at that and say “see? told ya welding wouldn’t work” Which is a damned shame because that was never welded.

 

[cynot]

Yeah, I'm mad as hell. He shouldn't have let that guy near my vehicle. He told me he had welded for him before and did good work. This shop specializes in lifted jeeps and trucks but do alignments and other builds including custom roll cages. I told them that you can clearly see the crack after they dressed it and they should have stopped there. Now the shop is looking for a subframe and I'm looking for another car as this is my daily and I don't have a backup. Can anyone verify the proper part number according to my VIN? (1G6DP8E39C0115024) It's a 3.6L RWD. I can't help to think that this is going to end up in court. Thanks for all the input.

 

[RobF300]

Yeah, I'm mad as hell. He shouldn't have let that guy near my vehicle. He told me he had welded for him before and did good work. This shop specializes in lifted jeeps and trucks but do alignments and other builds including custom roll cages. I told them that you can clearly see the crack after they dressed it and they should have stopped there. Now the shop is looking for a subframe and I'm looking for another car as this is my daily and I don't have a backup. Can anyone verify the proper part number according to my VIN? (1G6DP8E39C0115024) It's a 3.6L RWD. I can't help to think that this is going to end up in court. Thanks for all the input.

not to beat you up but no way would I have left the shop with that, that was dangerous
I think:

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2008-2014 Cadillac CTS part # 20911365 - Front Engine Cradle

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