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Can I get someone to look at my logs? (HPT)

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Mods to the car are as follows:
2012 CTSV Coupe A/T
Intake, headers, full exhaust, and smaller pulley on S/C
It has a diablo tuner that was with the car when I bought it.

I took some logs with the tuner unhooked and I didnt notice much performance difference. My main concern is currently at idle. I just need to know if everything looks normal. It feels like there is some stuttering (not quite a misfire) and you can hear it so I posted a video also. All I disabled in HPT is the rear O2 sensors because they are not there anymore. After the rev in the video, the idle smooths out for a little bit. I am running 91.

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Might need to raise your idle rpm a little.

You might want to show some screenshots of the important part of the logs. A lot of members use tapatalk on their phones and can't look at log files. Just 2 cents...



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Just a suggestion but check your spark plugs state they’re iridium and can erode fast down to knubs..might affect the quality of idle.


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I ordered new plugs, and will have the wideband installed this weekend.
Where you going to put that wideband gauge? Which model gauge too?

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I run copper plugs and a colder heat range than typical, but I have a little higher compression than most LSA builds. Tuning idle on these cars when modified can be a real bitch unless you have a lot of experience with it. Took me literally years to get mine where I want it (again, with a lot of help from the forum). But for basic bolt ons, first step is airflow, fuel, and timing adjustments.

Don't put much faith in "generic" tuners like the diablo. It's probably rich and with bigger cams you often have to tweak the idle airflow settings. But it looks stable and doesn't stall - so that's a perk. If no one steps up, I'll see if I can look at your logs tomorrow.

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u have to log more, dynamic airflow g/s, cylinder air g, engine torque, inj duty (might be default maths), knock retard, idle adaptive adv, or more idle pids if u have them, inj pulse width both banks, also i stay away from the SAE pids they are generic and can be better to log the sensor if ur only using your vehicle,

ur also running very lean in the bank 2 when WOT with that boost i wouldnt do that again until u figure out whats going on, according to the 02 sensor it starts of about stoich and as rpm goes up it gets leaner, too much of that will cause issues, there looks to be a decent fueling looking at stft different between the banks so id look into that also might be part of whats going on, the sensor isnt doing what it should be cycling around stoich in closed loop so its either a issue or sensor is old and failed but DONT GO WOT TILL U SORT IT OUT if u were logging knock it will show u if its potentially doing damage but with the data u have in the log it seems ok might just be sensor but check it out asap
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If he's lean in one bank and not the other, could be an air leak (or a faulty O2 sensor / wire) - which would throw fuel trims and possibly total fueling under WOT off if LTFTs are enabled.

Check for loose bolts or exhaust connections, and see if any wires are melting over the headers, along with the above.
yea its little odd as its showing rich and taking around 20% out when in closed loop but then goes lean on same bank with boost, but the sensor dosnt seem to want to go much above the mid point, could swap sides with the 02 sensors and see if the data swaps over
Sorry I haven't been active in this post. I was putting out several other fires on the car recently. I agree the car is running very rich to the point where it will stutter under mild throttle. This week/weekend, I will work on getting the LC-2 wideband up and running on HPT. For some reason I add it to the channels, but when I hit record, it disappears.
Where you going to put that wideband gauge? Which model gauge too?

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u have to log more, dynamic airflow g/s, cylinder air g, engine torque, inj duty (might be default maths), knock retard, idle adaptive adv, or more idle pids if u have them, inj pulse width both banks, also i stay away from the SAE pids they are generic and can be better to log the sensor if ur only using your vehicle,

ur also running very lean in the bank 2 when WOT with that boost i wouldnt do that again until u figure out whats going on, according to the 02 sensor it starts of about stoich and as rpm goes up it gets leaner, too much of that will cause issues, there looks to be a decent fueling looking at stft different between the banks so id look into that also might be part of whats going on, the sensor isnt doing what it should be cycling around stoich in closed loop so its either a issue or sensor is old and failed but DONT GO WOT TILL U SORT IT OUT if u were logging knock it will show u if its potentially doing damage but with the data u have in the log it seems ok might just be sensor but check it out asap
It has something to do with the Diablo tune. I went back to my stock file. I did a comparison between the Diablo and stock CTSV tune. Would you mind taking a look? I put it into Excel so I can compare easier. Would you keep the supercharger settings like the Diablo has? I am going to start modding the stock tune and go from there. Here is the data from both Supercharger Tab changes. The rest stayed unchanged between the 2.

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I would just forget everything that has to do with the Diablo and go forward with modifying your stock tune in hpt.

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That’s the plan. I need to tune the car because I notice how sluggish it is on a stock tune. It seemed more responsive with the Diablo tune but ran way rich. I don’t know enough about all the tables to begin tweaking my stock tune. I am trying to learn as much as I can when I have time but there is not a lot of “mild” tune tutorials out there for a supercharged V8 that I have found. So far I have been able to port the wideband into HPT. I don’t know anything about spark/ fuel tweaking.

I know the car needs a dyno to be properly tuned and I will get to that point, I want to do some more stuff to it before I go that route. I am trying to eliminate problems at this point and trying to get the car to run somewhat efficiently.

i bought it used, with a smaller pulley, headers, full corsa exhaust and AFE intake. I’m assuming there are a few simple things I can do to ballpark it a little better. Any suggestions on where to start?
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looks like the diablo has just disabled the limits to the supercharger so its not worried about which is fine, the torque just looks maxed out which can be fine if its just a limitation table, id have to see it in the tune file but so far looks ok, yea prob best to start fresh as u dont know what going on in the background, i wouldnt put a stock tune in it but if u have your stock tune and the read from the diablo tune in hpt then u can copy over the differences to the factory tune that was u dont get any odd background stuff if hpt cant see it, and always be aware of fueling see how it goes and start making adjustments
looks like the diablo has just disabled the limits to the supercharger so its not worried about which is fine, the torque just looks maxed out which can be fine if its just a limitation table, id have to see it in the tune file but so far looks ok, yea prob best to start fresh as u dont know what going on in the background, i wouldnt put a stock tune in it but if u have your stock tune and the read from the diablo tune in hpt then u can copy over the differences to the factory tune that was u dont get any odd background stuff if hpt cant see it, and always be aware of fueling see how it goes and start making adjustments
That is what I did. I am putting together an Excel table of the differences between the stock file and Diablo in HPT. I will upload both tunes if you wouldnt mind taking a look. With the Diablo tune, its running rich, stuttering at part throttle when I first press the pedal. Its also throwing a P219B (Fuel Trim Cyl. Balance Bank 2) code after an hour of driving.
very little changed really, vve looks stock, maf is changed and its put in so called maf only but thats not right just lazy tuning, is the vehicle mostly stock or modded ? dosnt really take that long to dial the maf in as its only airflow if u can get an idle and round town and then from low 4th to top end of 4th with wideband u can pretty much dial the maf in with that (4th is getting up there tho which is why dynos help) vve will need work but that can take longer as its load based but u can also do that over time once maf is dialed in the vve can be adjust to suit over time, PE is rather rich so if boost isnt too high u can bring that back, the stuttering is prob the rich PE and low timing in the lower rpm high load areas which may be fixable if there is no knock for the fuel used and it may like it leaner then it is can all be things to test out
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very little changed really, vve looks stock, maf is changed and its put in so called maf only but thats not right just lazy tuning, is the vehicle mostly stock or modded ? dosnt really take that long to dial the maf in as its only airflow if u can get an idle and round town and then from low 4th to top end of 4th with wideband u can pretty much dial the maf in with that (4th is getting up there tho which is why dynos help) vve will need work but that can take longer as its load based but u can also do that over time once maf is dialed in the vve can be adjust to suit over time, PE is rather rich so if boost isnt too high u can bring that back, the stuttering is prob the rich PE and low timing in the lower rpm high load areas which may be fixable if there is no knock for the fuel used and it may like it leaner then it is can all be things to test out
All that is done to the engine is smaller pulley, headers, full corsa exhaust (no cats) and AFE intake. What would be fine to keep from the Diablo tune? I can add that stuff to the stock tune and tweak the rest.
very little changed really, vve looks stock, maf is changed and its put in so called maf only but thats not right just lazy tuning, is the vehicle mostly stock or modded ? dosnt really take that long to dial the maf in as its only airflow if u can get an idle and round town and then from low 4th to top end of 4th with wideband u can pretty much dial the maf in with that (4th is getting up there tho which is why dynos help) vve will need work but that can take longer as its load based but u can also do that over time once maf is dialed in the vve can be adjust to suit over time, PE is rather rich so if boost isnt too high u can bring that back, the stuttering is prob the rich PE and low timing in the lower rpm high load areas which may be fixable if there is no knock for the fuel used and it may like it leaner then it is can all be things to test out
Here are some screenshots of the differences of the tunes:






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