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I am currently living in Switzerland and will move to USA in 2022. I need to slowly think about what I should do with my CTS. The car is a 2011 sedan automatic with 50000 miles, upper pulley and PatG tune. I would get around 22000$ if I sell it here. I was checking some used car web-sites and similar mileage cars are all in the area of 30k+ $. I was wondering if it might possible to bring my car to US? Has anybody experiences to share about importing cars to US?
I was reading some articles and the most important thing is the car meets DOT and EPA specs. To proof that there should be a sticker either by the drivers door or under the hood. On my car there is only one by the drivers door, however it does contain only some weight figures about the car.
 

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Pardon my ignorance, what is "Euro-spec"...like the speedometer in kilometers, different emissions, different lights, or steering wheel location?
 

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You may want to get ahold of an auto broker here in the states, I believe that speedo needs to be changed. If it makes a difference to your decision I looked at an imported V before I bought mine, and it was actually quite a bit cheaper than the others.
 

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Doesn't the DIC allow you to change the Speedo from MPH to KPH? I can't remember if that's in the list but I'm betting it is. My 1998 C5 Corvette had MPH/KPH on a setting in the DIC. Along with ºF and ºC... Speedo should be good. The car needs to have DOT headlights and taillights, which it may not have. It probably already has compliant bumpers and glass and seatbelts and airbags. And of course it needs to have EPA compliant emissions. But it probably does already for that, too. All the mechanical stuff should be the same for a US car. But I know euro headlight and signal light requirements are different from the US. Check the plastic casting of the headlamps and taillamps, there should be a DOT number embossed somewhere (it'll say "DOT" and then some numbers), maybe along an edge.
 

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I am currently living in Switzerland and will move to USA in 2022. I need to slowly think about what I should do with my CTS. The car is a 2011 sedan automatic with 50000 miles, upper pulley and PatG tune. I would get around 22000$ if I sell it here. I was checking some used car web-sites and similar mileage cars are all in the area of 30k+ $. I was wondering if it might possible to bring my car to US? Has anybody experiences to share about importing cars to US?
I was reading some articles and the most important thing is the car meets DOT and EPA specs. To proof that there should be a sticker either by the drivers door or under the hood. On my car there is only one by the drivers door, however it does contain only some weight figures about the car.

I have some similar knowledge from researching although I have not actually imported a car. I live in Abu Dhabi and CTSV's here go for $14,000 USD to $20,000 USD and have less than 70k miles on them. So obviously I looked into it. From my understanding, the US looks at it as US Spec, All others, or the antique rule of being 25 years old upon import.

The issue is with the ones where I am is that they are GCC spec. I contacted auto brokers and even the EPA themselves about emissions with import cars because I did find a letter of conformity for the LSA.

Do you know what spec your car is? EURO or US? Does the door sticker say it meets the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS)?

So if it does not meet FMVSS, you will need to replace
  1. Windshield and glass
  2. I believe a door impact bar has to be added
  3. Front and rear bumper impact bars
  4. Tail lights for sure and maybe headlights as stated above
This is something like $2,000 or less to accomplish. Many Military that get the Audi or BMW over there in Europe have to do this if not purchased new.

Biggest expense will be EPA and emissions.
Here is the question I asked and the EPA response. I also followed up with a Canadian spec car and their response was the same.

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Thank you for your inquiry. A GCC spec vehicle would not be compliant with U.S. EPA Federal emission regulations and are defined as nonconforming vehicles. To import a nonconforming vehicle you would need to contact an Independent Commercial Importer (ICI) to have the vehicle modified, tested, and certified to U.S. EPA Federal emission standards. If an ICI is unwilling or unable to certify that vehicle then it cannot be imported. Also these types of conversions can exceed the value of the vehicle (can typically cost $10,000.00 - $20,000.00 for the emission conversion).


https://www.epa.gov/importing-vehicles-and-engines/list-independent-commercial-importers-icis

This list will only show some basic components (may not include all) that are required to be replaced. For more information, please contact and Independent Commercial Importer (ICI).


Replace Catalytic Converter with US-Model component

Replace Oxygen Sensors

Install active charcoal canister

Install Rollover valve in the fuel vent line

Replace Fuel Cap

Prepare the vehicle for the required Emission Test

Perform the Emissions Test by the EPA laboratory

Install OBD2-System [On Board Diagnostic System 2] [if not so equipped by the manufacture] or Reprogram if equipped

Replace Fuel Tank with US-Model component

Install additional pre-Catalytic Converter

Install additional Oxygen Sensors

Install Air pump-System

Install Purge-System

Install Evap-System

Install OBD2 Connecter

Remap Computer to OBD2 Specs

Install Check-Engine light in Instrument-Cluster

Customize Wiring-Harness and connect to required components



You will also need to contact the DOT at 202-366-5291 or www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/ for the DOT (safety) regulations


David C. Hurlin

EPA Imports Line, Exemptions

Managed by Jacobs, Contractor to the U.S. EPA

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Hope this helps in your decision and process.
 

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There are auto brokers that deal specifically with importing cars to the US, I happen to know one that lives up the street from me and that's all he does. So calling someone like that would be helpful in my opinion... And the gauge clusters are in fact different, like I said I looked at an imported car and the cluster hadn't been changed yet. I doubt it would matter if you changed it legality wise but the boost and temp are labeled rather than being digital, and I think there was something else about it that was different.
 

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Pardon my ignorance, what is "Euro-spec"...like the speedometer in kilometers, different emissions, different lights, or steering wheel location?
Good question, I don't know either :D
I think the obvious ones are the tail and headlights (transparent and orange signal) and maybe the instrument clusters (kmh and celsius).
 

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Doesn't the DIC allow you to change the Speedo from MPH to KPH? I can't remember if that's in the list but I'm betting it is. My 1998 C5 Corvette had MPH/KPH on a setting in the DIC. Along with ºF and ºC... Speedo should be good. The car needs to have DOT headlights and taillights, which it may not have. It probably already has compliant bumpers and glass and seatbelts and airbags. And of course it needs to have EPA compliant emissions. But it probably does already for that, too. All the mechanical stuff should be the same for a US car. But I know euro headlight and signal light requirements are different from the US. Check the plastic casting of the headlamps and taillamps, there should be a DOT number embossed somewhere (it'll say "DOT" and then some numbers), maybe along an edge.
I think too the speedo can be changed from kmh to mph. I remember years ago playing with the DIC, I changed it to mph.
I would be surprised if things like bumpers, airbags etc are different, but you never know.
Thank you for the DOT hint, I'll check the lights.
 

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I have some similar knowledge from researching although I have not actually imported a car. I live in Abu Dhabi and CTSV's here go for $14,000 USD to $20,000 USD and have less than 70k miles on them. So obviously I looked into it. From my understanding, the US looks at it as US Spec, All others, or the antique rule of being 25 years old upon import.

The issue is with the ones where I am is that they are GCC spec. I contacted auto brokers and even the EPA themselves about emissions with import cars because I did find a letter of conformity for the LSA.

Do you know what spec your car is? EURO or US? Does the door sticker say it meets the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS)?

So if it does not meet FMVSS, you will need to replace
  1. Windshield and glass
  2. I believe a door impact bar has to be added
  3. Front and rear bumper impact bars
  4. Tail lights for sure and maybe headlights as stated above
This is something like $2,000 or less to accomplish. Many Military that get the Audi or BMW over there in Europe have to do this if not purchased new.

Biggest expense will be EPA and emissions.
Here is the question I asked and the EPA response. I also followed up with a Canadian spec car and their response was the same.

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Thank you for your inquiry. A GCC spec vehicle would not be compliant with U.S. EPA Federal emission regulations and are defined as nonconforming vehicles. To import a nonconforming vehicle you would need to contact an Independent Commercial Importer (ICI) to have the vehicle modified, tested, and certified to U.S. EPA Federal emission standards. If an ICI is unwilling or unable to certify that vehicle then it cannot be imported. Also these types of conversions can exceed the value of the vehicle (can typically cost $10,000.00 - $20,000.00 for the emission conversion).


https://www.epa.gov/importing-vehicles-and-engines/list-independent-commercial-importers-icis

This list will only show some basic components (may not include all) that are required to be replaced. For more information, please contact and Independent Commercial Importer (ICI).


Replace Catalytic Converter with US-Model component

Replace Oxygen Sensors

Install active charcoal canister

Install Rollover valve in the fuel vent line

Replace Fuel Cap

Prepare the vehicle for the required Emission Test

Perform the Emissions Test by the EPA laboratory

Install OBD2-System [On Board Diagnostic System 2] [if not so equipped by the manufacture] or Reprogram if equipped

Replace Fuel Tank with US-Model component

Install additional pre-Catalytic Converter

Install additional Oxygen Sensors

Install Air pump-System

Install Purge-System

Install Evap-System

Install OBD2 Connecter

Remap Computer to OBD2 Specs

Install Check-Engine light in Instrument-Cluster

Customize Wiring-Harness and connect to required components



You will also need to contact the DOT at 202-366-5291 or www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/ for the DOT (safety) regulations


David C. Hurlin

EPA Imports Line, Exemptions

Managed by Jacobs, Contractor to the U.S. EPA

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Hope this helps in your decision and process.
I have the same information obtained from the DOT web-site. I think without getting the V accepted as US standard, it will be impossible. They always refer to an emission and safety sticker by the drivers door, which on mine looks completely different then what you have.
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I have to get in contact with some auto broker/import specialist.
 

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I don't think it's actually a big deal to import a car that was already sold here. I could be wrong though and I've never actually done it personally. The suggestion of contacting someone that deals in these things as their professional business seems like the best way to find out for sure. I know Vs go from the US to Canada easily. I don't think there was enough different about the European export ones to make it much more difficult.
 
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