That is a badass car for sure, freaking amazing! In no way am I trying to diminish what that team has built but have a couple questions for us average owners out here. How much total money investment dollars in that Audi versus the Tesla off the showroom floor? How much will it cost me to go as fast as this car? The Tesla is giving up a 1K pounds, could those same results be obtained from a lower start point or dead stop? What is the reliabilty of that highly modified gas engine on multiple runs and regular driving compared to the Tesla? Is it a comfortable/luxurious and reliable daily driver like the Tesla? It would seem with the Tesla that you simply recharge the battery. The Tesla is a "stock" car I could buy today with warranty that reaches it's performance numbers with no modification and would beat pretty much every car on the road from a stoplight. I have been a car enthusiast my entire life and will always drive gas engined cars that I can modify and play with, nothing like the feel of raw torque and loud exhaust as you are pushed back in your seat but new technology has changed the game. Do you want to go fast or have fun going fast with the noise and vibration that entails. I have not driven a Tesla but want to, maybe it will change my opinion, I love acceration!
850hp (800-850whp) TTRS spanks a Tesla Plaid 😳
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You said: How much total money investment dollars in that Audi versus the Tesla off the showroom floor? How much will it cost me to go as fast as this car?
Response: Let's break it down (These are rough guesstimates):
Building a TTRS or RS3 is not cheap by any means, but it still far less expensive than buying new Tesla Model S Plaid that cost around 130k new before markups.
You said: The Tesla is giving up a 1K pounds, could those same results be obtained from a lower start point or dead stop?
Response: My guess is that the Plaid would be victorious from a lower speed due especially from a dig with instant 1000 + torque hit to about 100mph and then the Audi would come around it soon after.
You said: What is the reliability of that highly modified gas engine on multiple runs and regular driving compared to the Tesla?
Response: Well no highly modified gas engine will be as reliable as compared to any Tesla. However, I believe this particular car has a better chance than most from experiencing a catastrophic failure since it has a fully built engine and transmission to handle the abuse.
You said: Is it a comfortable/luxurious and reliable daily driver like the Tesla?
Response: Probably not, but the Audi is no penalty box either. This particular Audi has a very nice interior, but no way is a 3200lb sports car with probably un upgraded stiff position gone to be as comfortable of a car to ride in as the Tesla. Tesla for the win here.
You said: It would seem with the Tesla that you simply recharge the battery. The Tesla is a "stock" car I could buy today with warranty that reaches it's performance numbers with no modification and would beat pretty much every car on the road from a stoplight.
Response: I agree with you 100%. A Tesla Plaid will beat 99.9% of the car it will run across on the road in normal driving situations.
You said: I have not driven a Tesla but want to, maybe it will change my opinion, I love acceleration!
My response: I had the opportunity last month to go on a test ride in a Plaid owned by the shop that built my car, but I cowered because I was afraid that the acceleration might make me not like my car's performance as much anymore.
Response: Let's break it down (These are rough guesstimates):
- New Audi TTRS probably cost about - 75k
- IMS850S Turbo Kit upgrade (IMS850S Kit for 8V RS3 and 8S TTRS) - 9k
- Sleeved Short Block with upgraded pistons and rods - 8k
- Built Transmission - 4k
- Other miscellaneous mods like intakes, downpipe injectors and fuel system, etc. - 10k
Building a TTRS or RS3 is not cheap by any means, but it still far less expensive than buying new Tesla Model S Plaid that cost around 130k new before markups.
You said: The Tesla is giving up a 1K pounds, could those same results be obtained from a lower start point or dead stop?
Response: My guess is that the Plaid would be victorious from a lower speed due especially from a dig with instant 1000 + torque hit to about 100mph and then the Audi would come around it soon after.
You said: What is the reliability of that highly modified gas engine on multiple runs and regular driving compared to the Tesla?
Response: Well no highly modified gas engine will be as reliable as compared to any Tesla. However, I believe this particular car has a better chance than most from experiencing a catastrophic failure since it has a fully built engine and transmission to handle the abuse.
You said: Is it a comfortable/luxurious and reliable daily driver like the Tesla?
Response: Probably not, but the Audi is no penalty box either. This particular Audi has a very nice interior, but no way is a 3200lb sports car with probably un upgraded stiff position gone to be as comfortable of a car to ride in as the Tesla. Tesla for the win here.
You said: It would seem with the Tesla that you simply recharge the battery. The Tesla is a "stock" car I could buy today with warranty that reaches it's performance numbers with no modification and would beat pretty much every car on the road from a stoplight.
Response: I agree with you 100%. A Tesla Plaid will beat 99.9% of the car it will run across on the road in normal driving situations.
You said: I have not driven a Tesla but want to, maybe it will change my opinion, I love acceleration!
My response: I had the opportunity last month to go on a test ride in a Plaid owned by the shop that built my car, but I cowered because I was afraid that the acceleration might make me not like my car's performance as much anymore.
It's the 🤣🤣🤣 at the end for me..You said: How much total money investment dollars in that Audi versus the Tesla off the showroom floor? How much will it cost me to go as fast as this car?
Response: Let's break it down (These are rough guesstimates):
Total: 106k
- New Audi TTRS probably cost about - 75k
- IMS850S Turbo Kit upgrade (IMS850S Kit for 8V RS3 and 8S TTRS) - 9k
- Sleeved Short Block with upgraded pistons and rods - 8k
- Built Transmission - 4k
- Other miscellaneous mods like intakes, downpipe injectors and fuel system, etc. - 10k
Building a TTRS or RS3 is not cheap by any means, but it still far less expensive than buying new Tesla Model S Plaid that cost around 130k new before markups.
You said: The Tesla is giving up a 1K pounds, could those same results be obtained from a lower start point or dead stop?
Response: My guess is that the Plaid would be victorious from a lower speed due especially from a dig with instant 1000 + torque hit to about 100mph and then the Audi would come around it soon after.
You said: What is the reliability of that highly modified gas engine on multiple runs and regular driving compared to the Tesla?
Response: Well no highly modified gas engine will be as reliable as compared to any Tesla. However, I believe this particular car has a better chance than most from experiencing a catastrophic failure since it has a fully built engine and transmission to handle the abuse.
You said: Is it a comfortable/luxurious and reliable daily driver like the Tesla?
Response: Probably not, but the Audi is no penalty box either. This particular Audi has a very nice interior, but no way is a 3200lb sports car with probably un upgraded stiff position gone to be as comfortable of a car to ride in as the Tesla. Tesla for the win here.
You said: It would seem with the Tesla that you simply recharge the battery. The Tesla is a "stock" car I could buy today with warranty that reaches it's performance numbers with no modification and would beat pretty much every car on the road from a stoplight.
Response: I agree with you 100%. A Tesla Plaid will beat 99.9% of the car it will run across on the road in normal driving situations.
You said: I have not driven a Tesla but want to, maybe it will change my opinion, I love acceleration!
My response: I had the opportunity last month to go on a test ride in a Plaid owned by the shop that built my car, but I cowered because I was afraid that the acceleration might make me not like my car's performance as much anymore.
The longevity....I'm waiting for the 5 to 8 year numbers, and cost to replace batteries start to happen.You said: How much total money investment dollars in that Audi versus the Tesla off the showroom floor? How much will it cost me to go as fast as this car?
Response: Let's break it down (These are rough guesstimates):
Total: 106k
- New Audi TTRS probably cost about - 75k
- IMS850S Turbo Kit upgrade (IMS850S Kit for 8V RS3 and 8S TTRS) - 9k
- Sleeved Short Block with upgraded pistons and rods - 8k
- Built Transmission - 4k
- Other miscellaneous mods like intakes, downpipe injectors and fuel system, etc. - 10k
Building a TTRS or RS3 is not cheap by any means, but it still far less expensive than buying new Tesla Model S Plaid that cost around 130k new before markups.
You said: The Tesla is giving up a 1K pounds, could those same results be obtained from a lower start point or dead stop?
Response: My guess is that the Plaid would be victorious from a lower speed due especially from a dig with instant 1000 + torque hit to about 100mph and then the Audi would come around it soon after.
You said: What is the reliability of that highly modified gas engine on multiple runs and regular driving compared to the Tesla?
Response: Well no highly modified gas engine will be as reliable as compared to any Tesla. However, I believe this particular car has a better chance than most from experiencing a catastrophic failure since it has a fully built engine and transmission to handle the abuse.
You said: Is it a comfortable/luxurious and reliable daily driver like the Tesla?
Response: Probably not, but the Audi is no penalty box either. This particular Audi has a very nice interior, but no way is a 3200lb sports car with probably un upgraded stiff position gone to be as comfortable of a car to ride in as the Tesla. Tesla for the win here.
You said: It would seem with the Tesla that you simply recharge the battery. The Tesla is a "stock" car I could buy today with warranty that reaches it's performance numbers with no modification and would beat pretty much every car on the road from a stoplight.
Response: I agree with you 100%. A Tesla Plaid will beat 99.9% of the car it will run across on the road in normal driving situations.
You said: I have not driven a Tesla but want to, maybe it will change my opinion, I love acceleration!
My response: I had the opportunity last month to go on a test ride in a Plaid owned by the shop that built my car, but I cowered because I was afraid that the acceleration might make me not like my car's performance as much anymore.
I prefer the hybrid like drivetrains that are coming out by Mercedes. Hybrids bridge the gap nicely allowing enthusiast to still feel and hear the roar of an engine combined with the electric assist of batteries.
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I know a bit about electronics, but don't work with electric motors.
So for the sake of 'Simple / Friendly.
.Clarification Purposes'. . . .If you have 'Back EMF' / Reactance / Inductance (Xl), where the reactive component Xl, exists at any time, other then the turn on of the electric motor, cannot be a pure DC motor.
-regarding a causal interface containing Xl-
If the reactance of the interface or network (as one might define it) 'Varies' either with the applied current level, or a necessary varying time / frequency component (frequency span), then the electric motor is neither linear nor causal.
If have purposefully left out the reactive component of Xc, as any network that possesses both electrical components might generate parallel resonances, which I don't believe is part of the issue you took up with the stated so called DC motors.
Does the above satisfy your statements, or would you have other comments to help clarify?
Happy Holidays..
Mr. Soss,
Are we going to have to stop discussing NHRA Nitro Cars, or discussing
if a car with an IC Engine can beat a Tesla.
I say we drop the Nitro Cars, what you say..
I'm not sure how this devolved to a top fuel dragster discussion, I don't know of any EV brands that are even trying to climb into that market yet much less compete. Is it possible? Sure. Will it happen eventually? Likely. I thought it was just a friendly discussion about what top builders of how ICE car builders can compete with current technolgy for street cars. I agree with Hotsoss that the hybrid variant raises many potentiol opportunities, perhaps there is a way to combine the attributes of both EV and ICE to further the pursuit of speed and performance. I see this more of a possibility in the world of track racing but who knows. Car enthusiats have always embraced technolgy and implemented in thier designs/builds even if reluctantly at times. But building a top fuel dragster isn't even closely related to a daily driver on the street, you are the epitome of ridiculous speeds that can be produced at any cost with the sole purpose of achieving those speeds. Your accomplishments filter down to what the street driven cars are capable of.Mr. Soss,
Are we going to have to stop discussing NHRA Nitro Cars, or discussing
if a car with an IC Engine can beat a Tesla.
I say we drop the Nitro Cars, what you say..
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