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With the power and weight advantage, the only place the Blackwing can lose is 0-xx straight line. On a track the Blackwing will continue the V tradition of beating its competition (can't wait to see someone take one on the track for a test with track spec, MG wheels, and ceramic brakes for major reduction in rotating mass.)

 

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...also I'm surprised there isn't much talk about the new tires. These bespoke PS4 S tires have more R compound than anything else if I read right. Now I have to figure out how to get them on my V3!
 

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I'm still happy overall that GM decided to do full blown V's this gen and not totally abandon it. That said, I really wish they would have gone the extra mile to make them more special looking inside and out. Funny thing is I am willing to bet performance wise stock V3 vs stock CT5 V BW will be very close in all metrics including lap times. Maybe a tenth or two faster here and there as far as lap times anyway.
 

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You could get 2 blackwings for that and have double the HP lol! Looks like an amazing vehicle, never could spend that much on one ;(
My math must really be bad....143k isn't twice 122K.

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a reality check from Motor 1 website:
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"In case you need another reminder of just how crazy things are right now, consider this. You can't get a manual transmission on vehicles like the Chevrolet Corvette, Toyota Supra, or Mustang Shelby GT500. But in 2021, you can have one in ... a Cadillac?"

I also find it odd how the current Cadillac owners (here) are so disappointed. I guess the two big complaints I am reading are lack of AWD and interior design. It should be no surprise that Cadillac was not going to invest in creating an AWD system that is capable of handling 600+ hp and capable of maintaining the excellent driving dynamics that the V series cars have, when they plan to go all electric. The all electric plan also better explains abandoning the blackwing engine.
Personally, I have no interest in an electric car from any manufacturer, but I certainly didn't expect an AWD Blackwing (knowing the direction Cadillac already chose).
I don't fault Cadillac for anything about this new CT5BW car; I like it. That said, since they are committed to going electric, I am certain the CT5BW will be the last Cadillac I ever buy.
 

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Personally, I have no interest in an electric car from any manufacturer... That said, since they are committed to going electric, I am certain the CT5BW will be the last Cadillac I ever buy.
Why? Do you enjoy burning fossil fuel and making noise more than you enjoy performance?
 

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a reality check from Motor 1 website:
By: Christopher Smith
"In case you need another reminder of just how crazy things are right now, consider this. You can't get a manual transmission on vehicles like the Chevrolet Corvette, Toyota Supra, or Mustang Shelby GT500. But in 2021, you can have one in ... a Cadillac?"

I also find it odd how the current Cadillac owners (here) are so disappointed. I guess the two big complaints I am reading are lack of AWD and interior design. It should be no surprise that Cadillac was not going to invest in creating an AWD system that is capable of handling 600+ hp and capable of maintaining the excellent driving dynamics that the V series cars have, when they plan to go all electric. The all electric plan also better explains abandoning the blackwing engine.
Personally, I have no interest in an electric car from any manufacturer, but I certainly didn't expect an AWD Blackwing (knowing the direction Cadillac already chose).
I don't fault Cadillac for anything about this new CT5BW car; I like it. That said, since they are committed to going electric, I am certain the CT5BW will be the last Cadillac I ever buy.
Im disappointed on the looks of the car, no dual clutch transmission, overall just is a CT5. Just a lame release and then 120k for the car I would want leaves me with other options. I was truly excited to see what this car would bring and not hesitate to buy but misses on all points for me. If they wanted to go out with a bang why not put the ZR1 engine in it? I look at the photo of the car and I think oF a KIA stinger
 

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Im disappointed on the looks of the car, no dual clutch transmission, overall just is a CT5. Just a lame release and then 120k for the car I would want leaves me with other options. I was truly excited to see what this car would bring and not hesitate to buy but misses on all points for me. If they wanted to go out with a bang why not put the ZR1 engine in it? I look at the photo of the car and I think oF a KIA stinger
I see your points. Just let me know what 4 passenger car you end up buying for $85K-$120K, because I might learn something. At this point, I am tempted to sell the V3 (pending a satisfying BW test drive).
I’m not a rich guy, so I do consider cost of ownership as well...
 

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I don’t think getting out of a v3 to get into a v4 bw is going to make sense to alot of people. I don’t see that as an upgrade really. Newer sure. Better? Don’t seem so. Certainly not looks wise inside and out. Performance? Seems lined it’s going to be close. So I see no point.
 

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Am guessing with the sunset coming for ICE's, along with low sales projections, mgmt opted not to invest millions in a car that will be short lived. Unfortunately, the V is a niche market. The addition of a 3rd pedal is a great option, but really how many people will opt for it? (20-25%)
 

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You know, I have been thinking about these replies. I have been a huge fan of what Cadillac has been doing.

I thought about why I have enjoyed my high performance cars. It starts back in the 60's. Except for badging, the high performance ones looked like the regular models.

In the 70's, assuming one could call anything high performance, they still looked like the regular models.

In the 80's, another ho hum decade, it is hard to know since nothing was high performance and everything was ugly.

In the 90's things are beginning to perk up. I bought a 1990 SHO. It looked like the base model Taurus. People were always surprised to find out what it really was. I began to perk again.

In the 00's it really picked up. My bad attitude on performance finally began to turn around. I found about the V1 through a friend of mine. I was stunned. I found an 05 immediately. Put 179,000 miles on it before I totaled it.

Damn the luck. Now I am forced now to buy a 2010 V2. Put 208,000 miles on it. Sold it. Looked at a V3. The automatic killed it. It is hard to trust GM and automatics.

I was forced to buy a 2018 Z07. This is the first car I had to introduce myself to and hope it would accept me. This car has too much power. Any car that can break the tires loose and have the rear end moving at 85 mph is way overpowered! But it has done wonders for my testosterone levels. Enough that I love it now.

Then I found out about the CT5 V. Damn again. I will be forced into one of them now.

The common denominator, except for the Z07, is that these cars were stealth cars. Badging may be different. Aero may be different. But they look like the base models, just with horns and a fork. I think Cadillac is doing a great job and having a great time building a world class car. Anyone complaining here has forgotten the heritage and the approach that Cadillac has taken. If someone wants an American made muscle car that looks and sounds bad, the Z07 is perfect. However, it is NOT a road car. It is a world class track car.

The CT5 will be a road car in spades. All of the high performance sedans I have owned, SHO, V1, and V2 were world class, at their time, road cars. Cadillac has continued its improvement. The CT4 will be the best to date, and I will argue the best Cadillac of all time. AND, shockingly, comes from GM. AND from a division that is flexing its muscle. Name another GM division, absent Chevrolet in a very narrow segment, that has done that. These improvements are almost across their lines. Who would have thought?

Cadillac is making fabulous high performance road cars. Ones you can climb in and go 1,000 miles. In total comfort. Always innovating. Always improving. That is exactly what everyone is looking for in a car brand.

I never have driven a single high performance car I have bought and I have never been dissapointed. Cadillac has conntinued to build and continued to improve a high performance road car. I am with them 100% of the way.

So it may look like a CT5. Wait, I think it supposed to look like a CT5. Think about it.

You know, I have been thinking about these replies. I have been a huge fan of what Cadillac has been doing.

I thought about why I have enjoyed my high performance cars. It starts back in the 60's. Except for badging, the high performance ones looked like the regular models.

In the 70's, assuming one could call anything high performance, they still looked like the regular models.

In the 80's, another ho hum decade, it is hard to know since nothing was high performance and everything was ugly.

In the 90's things are beginning to perk up. I bought a 1990 SHO. It looked like the base model Taurus. People were always surprised to find out what it really was. I began to perk again.

In the 00's it really picked up. My bad attitude on performance finally began to turn around. I found about the V1 through a friend of mine. I was stunned. I found an 05 immediately. Put 179,000 miles on it before I totaled it.

Damn the luck. Now I am forced now to buy a 2010 V2. Put 208,000 miles on it. Sold it. Looked at a V3. The automatic killed it. It is hard to trust GM and automatics.

I was forced to buy a 2018 Z07. This is the first car I had to introduce myself to and hope it would accept me. This car has too much power. Any car that can break the tires loose and have the rear end moving at 85 mph is way overpowered! But it has done wonders for my testosterone levels. Enough that I love it now.

Then I found out about the CT5 V. Damn again. I will be forced into one of them now.

The common denominator, except for the Z07, is that these cars were stealth cars. Badging may be different. Aero may be different. But they look like the base models, just with horns and a fork. I think Cadillac is doing a great job and having a great time building a world class car. Anyone complaining here has forgotten the heritage and the approach that Cadillac has taken. If someone wants an American made muscle car that looks and sounds bad, the Z07 is perfect. However, it is NOT a road car. It is a world class track car.

The CT5 will be a road car in spades. All of the high performance sedans I have owned, SHO, V1, and V2 were world class, at their time, road cars. Cadillac has continued its improvement. The CT4 will be the best to date, and I will argue the best Cadillac of all time. AND, shockingly, comes from GM. AND from a division that is flexing its muscle. Name another GM division, absent Chevrolet in a very narrow segment, that has done that. These improvements are almost across their lines. Who would have thought?

Cadillac is making fabulous high performance road cars. Ones you can climb in and go 1,000 miles. In total comfort. Always innovating. Always improving. That is exactly what everyone is looking for in a car brand.

I never have driven a single high performance car I have bought and I have never been dissapointed. Cadillac has conntinued to build and continued to improve a high performance road car. I am with them 100% of the way.

So it may look like a CT5. Wait, I think it supposed to look like a CT5. Think about it.
I said CT4 above. It should be CT5!

I said CT4 above. It should be CT5!
Then I left out Blackwing. Back to bed.
 

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You know, I have been thinking about these replies. I have been a huge fan of what Cadillac has been doing.

I thought about why I have enjoyed my high performance cars. It starts back in the 60's. Except for badging, the high performance ones looked like the regular models.

In the 70's, assuming one could call anything high performance, they still looked like the regular models.

In the 80's, another ho hum decade, it is hard to know since nothing was high performance and everything was ugly.

In the 90's things are beginning to perk up. I bought a 1990 SHO. It looked like the base model Taurus. People were always surprised to find out what it really was. I began to perk again.

In the 00's it really picked up. My bad attitude on performance finally began to turn around. I found about the V1 through a friend of mine. I was stunned. I found an 05 immediately. Put 179,000 miles on it before I totaled it.

Damn the luck. Now I am forced now to buy a 2010 V2. Put 208,000 miles on it. Sold it. Looked at a V3. The automatic killed it. It is hard to trust GM and automatics.

I was forced to buy a 2018 Z07. This is the first car I had to introduce myself to and hope it would accept me. This car has too much power. Any car that can break the tires loose and have the rear end moving at 85 mph is way overpowered! But it has done wonders for my testosterone levels. Enough that I love it now.

Then I found out about the CT5 V. Damn again. I will be forced into one of them now.

The common denominator, except for the Z07, is that these cars were stealth cars. Badging may be different. Aero may be different. But they look like the base models, just with horns and a fork. I think Cadillac is doing a great job and having a great time building a world class car. Anyone complaining here has forgotten the heritage and the approach that Cadillac has taken. If someone wants an American made muscle car that looks and sounds bad, the Z07 is perfect. However, it is NOT a road car. It is a world class track car.

The CT5 will be a road car in spades. All of the high performance sedans I have owned, SHO, V1, and V2 were world class, at their time, road cars. Cadillac has continued its improvement. The CT4 will be the best to date, and I will argue the best Cadillac of all time. AND, shockingly, comes from GM. AND from a division that is flexing its muscle. Name another GM division, absent Chevrolet in a very narrow segment, that has done that. These improvements are almost across their lines. Who would have thought?

Cadillac is making fabulous high performance road cars. Ones you can climb in and go 1,000 miles. In total comfort. Always innovating. Always improving. That is exactly what everyone is looking for in a car brand.

I never have driven a single high performance car I have bought and I have never been dissapointed. Cadillac has conntinued to build and continued to improve a high performance road car. I am with them 100% of the way.

So it may look like a CT5. Wait, I think it supposed to look like a CT5. Think about it.
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You know, I have been thinking about these replies. I have been a huge fan of what Cadillac has been doing.

I thought about why I have enjoyed my high performance cars. It starts back in the 60's. Except for badging, the high performance ones looked like the regular models.

In the 70's, assuming one could call anything high performance, they still looked like the regular models.

In the 80's, another ho hum decade, it is hard to know since nothing was high performance and everything was ugly.

In the 90's things are beginning to perk up. I bought a 1990 SHO. It looked like the base model Taurus. People were always surprised to find out what it really was. I began to perk again.

In the 00's it really picked up. My bad attitude on performance finally began to turn around. I found about the V1 through a friend of mine. I was stunned. I found an 05 immediately. Put 179,000 miles on it before I totaled it.

Damn the luck. Now I am forced now to buy a 2010 V2. Put 208,000 miles on it. Sold it. Looked at a V3. The automatic killed it. It is hard to trust GM and automatics.

I was forced to buy a 2018 Z07. This is the first car I had to introduce myself to and hope it would accept me. This car has too much power. Any car that can break the tires loose and have the rear end moving at 85 mph is way overpowered! But it has done wonders for my testosterone levels. Enough that I love it now.

Then I found out about the CT5 V. Damn again. I will be forced into one of them now.

The common denominator, except for the Z07, is that these cars were stealth cars. Badging may be different. Aero may be different. But they look like the base models, just with horns and a fork. I think Cadillac is doing a great job and having a great time building a world class car. Anyone complaining here has forgotten the heritage and the approach that Cadillac has taken. If someone wants an American made muscle car that looks and sounds bad, the Z07 is perfect. However, it is NOT a road car. It is a world class track car.

The CT5 will be a road car in spades. All of the high performance sedans I have owned, SHO, V1, and V2 were world class, at their time, road cars. Cadillac has continued its improvement. The CT4 will be the best to date, and I will argue the best Cadillac of all time. AND, shockingly, comes from GM. AND from a division that is flexing its muscle. Name another GM division, absent Chevrolet in a very narrow segment, that has done that. These improvements are almost across their lines. Who would have thought?

Cadillac is making fabulous high performance road cars. Ones you can climb in and go 1,000 miles. In total comfort. Always innovating. Always improving. That is exactly what everyone is looking for in a car brand.

I never have driven a single high performance car I have bought and I have never been dissapointed. Cadillac has conntinued to build and continued to improve a high performance road car. I am with them 100% of the way.

So it may look like a CT5. Wait, I think it supposed to look like a CT5. Think about it.
So thats the problem in essence. It looks like a ct5 correct. That's why I'm not nuts for it. My CTS V3 looks like a cts gen 3 and I like that about it. The outisde and inside. The car has to start in it's most basic form appealing to the eye. This Gen really doesn't imo. I don't mind the sleeper look these cars have. I do mind the look of the ct5/4.
 
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