[oldwestracing]

* UPDATE: May 2022 - I don't want to waste anyone's time so thought I'd share before you get invested in this thread that I sold the V and moved on to a completely different project. *


So I decided to go ahead and start a build thread. I caution you now though. I actually started putting things in motion 10 months ago!! Between supply chain issues and issues at both the All Pro and Dart forgeries, this has turned out to be the most ridiculously long build I have ever done.

So don't be surprised if updates don't come too often. Just sayin' that out loud now.

Current situation is a 51k mi automatic coupe, ~650 on E85, 560 on 93.

Called HPR (Horsepower Research in McKinney...started by Erik Koenig from HKE and a few others) to have them start gathering the parts for a 427. Called Richard at WCCH to start working on a set of All Pro heads. Heads took 5 months. Motor is just now being machined. Supply issues are ridiculous but it wasn't a huge deal for the first 6 months as I had a major work project consuming all my time. Things are progressing finally and so I thought I'd share the progress.

Here is the high level engine specs. Have hands on most or it's due any moment.

Dart SHP block ( not the Pro. Couldn't find one. Actually had to get a 4" bore block and HPR take it out to 4.125. I even lucked into that block)
Callies Magnum 8ccw crank 4" stroke
Wiseco Boostline Rods
Jesel .937 solid lifters
Mike Jones (jonescam.com) custom solid roller cam
Crower 1.8 shaft rockers
WCCH All Pro LSW 12-3 12 degree heads - 278cc intake / 106cc exhaust / 69cc chambers / chambers softened
Xceldyne 2.20 titanium intake valve
REV inconel 1.6 exhaust valve
Texas Speed 2" long tube headers

And all the regular supporting stuff like ATI balancer, 6 bolt SFI flexplate, Creative Steel motor mounts, Cometic, ARP, etc etc etc

Haven't fully decided on fuel system yet. Really liking ALMPerformance (Adam's) triple in tank set up with the jet pumps. Probably will end up with ID 1700cc injectors. I have a DSX aux pump now but thinking that will come out. All TBD. It's wide open for now.

Already have a Track Attack HX but will add big lines, big pump, and an underhood tank. Not planning on a trunk tank right now.

Blower is still TBD. The new magnuson 2650 really looks interesting and the price is unbeatable. Or maybe I just go Kong and a DSX or DMS lid with a C&R brick. Will decided soon. 112mm throttle body and I'll build the cold air intake.

I'm sure I'll be doing trans, axles, etc, but hope to get the thing on the road and broken in and tuned before. We'll see how my patience and funds hold out.

Currently doing Creative Steel front control arm bushings and just going back with the mag ride shocks on the front. Current ones leaked the black death all over everything and needed to be dealt with.

I'm still driving the car regularly. Runs fantastic but I'm excited to get the new hammer in.

The car:

 

[oldwestracing]

TSP headers aren't too bad. Hoping to see how they fit soon!

 

[oldwestracing]

Some WCCH All Pro porn. These are amazing! Thanks to @Karch for pointing me this way.

 

[oldwestracing]

The Crower rockers are just top notch. Really really nice.

 

[Karch]

If I had the money, I would run them too.


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[oldwestracing]

For now, it's still under surgery for the front end. This has kicked my ass more than it should have.

 

[oldwestracing]

Rotating assembly is en route, but these days that could mean various extended amounts of time. Hopefully soon.

Block is on the machine this week getting roughed in. Praying to get the long block back before Easter. I've never seen a time when it was so hard to get parts.

 

[oldwestracing]

Someone may be wondering why I did a 427 instead of bigger since this is a clean sheet build. For me, a 4" stroke is about as long as I want to go with the 2650, not that longer couldn't be made to work, but it's about right for how the rest of the combo is sized as well.

But most importantly, 'cause it works with my new license plate. Priorities.

 

[Blades1_99]

TSP headers aren't too bad. Hoping to see how they fit soon!

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Are you going to get them Swain coated?

 

[Blades1_99]

Someone may be wondering why I did a 427 instead of bigger since this is a clean sheet build. For me, a 4" stroke is about as long as I want to go with the 2650, not that longer couldn't be made to work, but it's about right for how the rest of the combo is sized as well.

But most importantly, 'cause it works with my new license plate. Priorities.

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Four The Win 07 V?

 

[oldwestracing]

Are you going to get them Swain coated?

Considering it.

 

[Blades1_99]

Someone may be wondering why I did a 427 instead of bigger since this is a clean sheet build. For me, a 4" stroke is about as long as I want to go with the 2650, not that longer couldn't be made to work, but it's about right for how the rest of the combo is sized as well.

But most importantly, 'cause it works with my new license plate. Priorities.

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"427 V"

 

[oldwestracing]

Four The Win 07 V?

I'm gonna have to choose something else aren't I. I figured regular folks wouldn't get it but most car guys would.

Squint when you read it 😀

 

[Blades1_99]

I'm gonna have to choose something else aren't I. I figured regular folks wouldn't get it but most car guys would.

Squint when you read it 😀

I "got" the more I looked.

My tag is Z06NTUX so I appreciate personalized tags.

 

[MrSurly]

4 TWO 7 V
You have to read Texan.

When I saw the title of the thread I (seriously) thought you were calling me out

The Surly build is surely dragging ass...

 

[MrSurly]

I recently changed up my 418 LSA plan and switched to a Dart or LsX 427 plan that is still in creation mode. As i read your post i thought we were on similar treks... but you outpaced my ambitions with those heads and solid rollers. I am following this, for certain!

 

[oldwestracing]

I recently changed up my 418 LSA plan and switched to a Dart or LsX 427 plan that is still in creation mode. As i read your post i thought we were on similar treks... but you outpaced my ambitions with those heads and solid rollers. I am following this, for certain!

This is the first time in all the prior cars that I've actually been able to safely afford some of the better parts so I went with it. These things tend to take on a snowball effect though. I love solids but they come with their own set of issues, and the snowball gets out of hand. But, it's all for fun.

But, I was on the Dart or LSX block plan from the beginning. I've gone through the cycle of build, break, repeat, sell too many times. I'm hoping this one stays together to enjoy for a while so I tried to make choices that would help increase those odds. I'm definitely over the "see how far you can go with SBE" phase. So much sadness down that road.

 

[MrSurly]

But, I was on the Dart or LSX block plan from the beginning. I'm definitely over the "see how far you can go with SBE" phase. So much sadness down that road.

I agree about the SBE comment; To me it just seems like a 'we'll see how long it lasts' plan and I surely can't afford to do it twice. I was planning FBE, but I still have concerns about the LSA block's shortcomings.
Since you've just recently made the call; what lead to Dart vs LsX for you?

 

[jcs003]

I "got" the more I looked.

My tag is Z06NTUX so I appreciate personalized tags.

I believe the V2 is more comparable to a ZR1 in a tux.

 

[oldwestracing]

The Dart block is just a better block IMO. The newest gen LSX isn't terrible though. The first few iterations weren't good at all but they fixed a lot of the issues. Main cap registers literally were loose on the earlier blocks and the water holes on the deck were not ideal. I really wanted a Dart SHP Pro block but it turned out just getting a block at all was a challenge. So I used what I could find.

The LSX is a great block, just prefer the Dart. I actually was about to jump ship to LSX at one point and stumbled on this block so I could go forward.

Lots of people going really fast with both so it's just personal preference I guess.