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    opinions brian tooley stage 3 cam

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    Ill let you know after the weekend just got it in yesterday...
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    all good thanks

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    Make sure you have a good tuner to get the driveability correctly sorted out. It lopes pretty hard and your car will shake pretty good. If you can live with that...then it's awesome! With the right exhaust setup, you will have many random encounters of curious people lol
    2011 CTS-V 6M - 603 RWHP/598 RWTQ - SOLD

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    I like it.

    Badass idle, pulls like an animal up top.

    The idle shake isnt even noticeable for me. Ive noticed it doesnt like slower speeds and lower RPMs but its nothing crazy
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    I recommend it.

    It drives smoothly for big cam. Most important no surge or hesitation issues in lower RPM. My car idles @ 650 RPM. I did not hesitate when I had the option between stage 2 & 3.

    I bought it directly from Brain Tooly and got good price for the package. He is very helpful and gave good advice.


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    I looked at the 2 and 3, but I was willing to sacrifice the 10-15 hp on the top end for better drivability. So I decided on the BTR 1. I love it! Balt/DC traffic is no problem.
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    I have the stage III in my sled which has a manual trans in it. There is no hiding the fact that the car has a camshaft in it and am constantly getting comments on it. There is definitely some shake to the car that was not there with my KDI TS 19, especially when it is cold started. I have some low rpm launching issues with it and have bumped the idle rpm to 800 which makes for an easier launch from a dead stop. There also seems to be a little more valve train noise with this cam than with the previous one but that is a subjective observation and I have no reason to believe that it is causing unnecessary wear on the components. Overall it seems to be a good cam for one straight out of the box. However, I would not rule out considering a custom grind cam.


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    i wan something with great drivability without sacrificing the hp want more than 700 rwhp
    Last edited by coachwinbush; 11-07-2013 at 03:24 AM.

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    by the way thanks to all you guys for your help

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    Quote Originally Posted by SecretWeapon View Post
    I have the stage III in my sled which has a manual trans in it. There is no hiding the fact that the car has a camshaft in it and am constantly getting comments on it. There is definitely some shake to the car that was not there with my KDI TS 19, especially when it is cold started. I have some low rpm launching issues with it and have bumped the idle rpm to 800 which makes for an easier launch from a dead stop. There also seems to be a little more valve train noise with this cam than with the previous one but that is a subjective observation and I have no reason to believe that it is causing unnecessary wear on the components. Overall it seems to be a good cam for one straight out of the box. However, I would not rule out considering a custom grind cam.
    I tried everything from 700, 750, 800 and now 850 and for me 850 is where it sits right now. Anything below that and low speed driving and stop-n-go traffic was a nightmare! I mean if you have a bada$$ car and you stall it in traffic...that's not a good look lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by coachwinbush View Post
    i wan something with great drivability without sacrificing the hp
    That doesn't exist.
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    I also run a 0 overlap cam in a 6M and 825 rpm idle is where it likes it best. I would hate this cam in a 6A but it sounds soooooo badass and runs like a raped ape in a 6M.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blknylw View Post
    I tried everything from 700, 750, 800 and now 850 and for me 850 is where it sits right now. Anything below that and low speed driving and stop-n-go traffic was a nightmare! I mean if you have a bada$$ car and you stall it in traffic...that's not a good look lol
    I plan on bumping my idle rpm up as well. I will give 825 and 850 a try.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SecretWeapon View Post
    I plan on bumping my idle rpm up as well. I will give 825 and 850 a try.
    At least it's possible to try out different scenarios...It sounded ridiculously lopey at 700...but I want to be able to easily drive it even though it's a bigger cam.
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    Mine is a daily driver so the rpm is going up. I do not need cam stress on top of everything else.


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    Anybody have this cam on a a6
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    Unless you are chasing the lopey sound, there is no reason to run a 0 overlap cam in an 6A. The Autos have such an advantage in racing over the manuals that giving up 5-10 hp on a cam is nothing. I wouldnt give up the driveability at all in an 6A.

    6M's just are far more foregiving with cams and you can "drive around" the 0 overlap issues, I can feel low speed driveability issues with my cam, but it just requires downshifting one gear at below 25mph. It would be miserable in a 6A, but sounds bad ass in a 6M.

    Fact: The stock cam sucks and there are so many choices that work GREAT in the 6A that makes them ballz out fast!
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    Anybody know the stage 3 specs?
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    231/248 .617/.595 120 LSA with 5 degree adv So technically it is a -0.5 overlap
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    and here I always thought it was a 0 overlap...hmmm that's interesting
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    Quote Originally Posted by blknylw View Post
    and here I always thought it was a 0 overlap...hmmm that's interesting
    close but no cigar...... only the big boys run 0 overlap cams!!!! LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by blknylw View Post
    and here I always thought it was a 0 overlap...hmmm that's interesting
    Man, you were way off!!
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    LOL, no biggie...you can 100% tell that my car lopes like a mofo!

    I wanted 4 things in a cam...

    1) Noticeable lope

    2) Decent driveability

    3) Easier on valvetrain

    4) Great power throughout the entire powerband

    I still think it meets all those requirements just fine
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    opinions brian tooley stage 3 cam

    I'm installing a similar cam with 0 overlap in my 6A in Jan. I'll post up reviews. I don't expect it to be as bad as some make it out. I've ridden in several auto G8 and Camaros with same or even worse chop and no issues as long as you have a good tuner. I would even say the 6A can handle a 0 overlap cam better then a M if tuned right. Now to me that's the limit though. Anything bigger and you're asking for trouble.
    Either way I wanted the lope and the pull on top. Good thing about an auto is I can drop the idle to something ridiculous in park or neutral for that nasty lope and still have it raised in drive for drivability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coachwinbush View Post
    i wan something with great drivability without sacrificing the hp want more than 700 rwhp
    You can reach your 700whp thru a m6 but who doesn't want great driveability and all the horsepower? It's more cam than I would put in someone's car who asked for great driveability. His stage 1 is absolutely like stock and the stage 2 is what I would suggest for you out of his 3 cams. The stage 3 will give up a little driveability for 5-20whp depending on other mods. If you are willing to give up a little driveability for a healthy cam lope then #3 is for you.

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    On May 5, 2013 7:52 AM, "Brian Tooley" wrote:

    Hello Bob,

    Several guys have made over 700 rwhp with the Stage 2 cam, it's probably my favorite. It has -9 degrees of overlap and a nice idle.

    The Stage 3 cam is more of a max effort type of camshaft. With around 0 degrees of overlap it still has a decent idle, but is intended for someone searching for the last little bit of power.

    Both cams have super durability, that's my specialty, power and durability can co-exist. As cams grow past .630" lift and ramp speeds increase the durability goes in the toilet.

    Thanks,
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